Administrator Tony Posted June 7, 2015 Administrator Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'm sure you've all seen the popup here on WebFlake, asking you to vote on a decision sure to impact your Internet rights and privacy. This is no virus -- WebFlake fully supports this project! For those of you unaware, Fight For the Future is an organization dedicated to protecting and expanding the Internet's transformative power in our lives by creating civic campaigns that are engaging for millions of people. Alongside Internet users everywhere they beat back attempts to limit our basic rights and freedoms, and empower people to demand technology (and policy) that serves their interests. Activating the Internet for the public good can only lead to a more vibrant and awesome world. They're known for their partnership with Center for Rights and Cloudflare, that brought forth the Internet Defense League, which in turn sponsored internet "blackouts" in an attempt to beat back SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) support. Wikipedia was one of their biggest supporters. Here are some of the early members of the Internet Defense League: FFTF has been at the forefront of Net Neutrality activism and are now trying to put an end to a back-room deal named the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). This TPP bill would be a nightmare for Internet users everywhere — here are a few articles about the worst parts. Force sites to remove allegedly infringing content from the web without a court order — similar to SOPA. (Read more) Create harsh criminal penalties for journalists and whistleblowers. (Read more) Punish Internet users who share copyrighted material, even without any personal gain. (Read more) Limit Fair Use to make copyright even more restrictive on creative innovation.(Read more) We encourage you all, even those of you who do not live inside of the United States, to take a moment and read over this movement. If this bill reaches President Barrack Obama's desk, he will sign it and such a bill would have widespread, global ramifications. Please take some time to review the information offered at https://www.battleforthenet.com/internetvote/ and cast your vote. If not for you, do it for WebFlake and its users. Do it for the Internet. If you mistakenly closed the popup modal, don't worry. Click the image of the modal below and you'll be taken to the voting screen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galaxy Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I don't get it, are we supporting the government to censor the internet or stopping the government from censoring the internet. Want an answer so I can vote for the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Tony Posted June 7, 2015 Author Administrator Share Posted June 7, 2015 Did you read over the information provided above and on the website? Should be pretty clear it's a vote to stop the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a bill that would lead to censorship of the Internet (thus why we want to stop it)! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady C Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 i voted against!Also because i don't really trust the way USA makes food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingy Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Here is a list of companies you will recognize who are against the The Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and Protect IP Act (PIPA) and are generally against censorship on the internet.. By no means is this the complete list, there are millions more.Amazon4ChanAOLCloudflareCPanelCraigslistEbayFacebookFlickrImgurIGNKickstarterLinkedInMajor League GamingMicrosoftMojangThe New York TimesNamecheapNVIDIAMozillaPayPalPornHubRedditTwitterWikia + WikipediaYahooZyngaGoogleGroovesharkTumblrGithubWordpressVimeo...And many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickHak Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I will vote for this too, the U.S and other governments should have no right to censor the internet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alakazam Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 European countries won't be affected, just like they're not affected by your DMCA law... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Tony Posted June 8, 2015 Author Administrator Share Posted June 8, 2015 European countries won't be affected, just like they're not affected by your DMCA law...Wow. Ignorance at its finest.SOPA and legislation like it are aimed at foreign websites. Evidently you haven't read the material provided above, or any material regarding such legislation (i.e. TPP).SOPA regulates the dealings between American service providers and foreign sites; most notably search engines, advertising networks, and payment processors (such as PayPal, Visa, and MasterCard). Search engines will be forced to remove listings of offending foreign sites; advertising networks will have to stop selling ads to offending sites; payment processors will have to stop processing payments from Americans for offending sites. You don't think any of this would impact European countries? In previous versions of SOPA (being discussed once more in the Trans-Pacific Partnership), DNS disruptions would become mandatory as well. Clearly, you're unaware of what ICE takedowns are.Furthermore, SOPA does not even require a complaint from a rights-holder before the US-based service providers cut off their payments, appearance in search results, or advertisements. Imagine one morning you wake up, to find your community blacklisted across the internet. You might be just outside the reach of United States judicial system but you're still under the purview of Interpol, who has been working closely with major authorities in taking down some of the internet's largest databases, such as TPB and EZTV.Please don't respond to this thread with inaccurate bullshit. The Trans-Pacific Partnership (SOPA 2.0) is a real threat, especially to WebFlake. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingy Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 European countries won't be affected, just like they're not affected by your DMCA law...Also to add on to what Davlin said. It'll be like the USA's domino theory with communism but in an internet context, once the USA pass this law, many other countries will follow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I voted. Support Team - September 9th, 2017 - June 8, 2018 Junior Moderator - December 14th 2018 - November 16th, 2019 Designer - November 16th, 2019 - June 5th, 2020 Moderator - June 5th, 2020 - August 28th, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erza Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Hell no should anyone be able to tell what is and what isn't allowed on the internet. I definitely voted, I kept voting for the other acts too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alakazam Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 European countries won't be affected, just like they're not affected by your DMCA law...Wow. Ignorance at its finest.SOPA and legislation like it are aimed at foreign websites. Evidently you haven't read the material provided above, or any material regarding such legislation (i.e. TPP).SOPA regulates the dealings between American service providers and foreign sites; most notably search engines, advertising networks, and payment processors (such as PayPal, Visa, and MasterCard). Search engines will be forced to remove listings of offending foreign sites; advertising networks will have to stop selling ads to offending sites; payment processors will have to stop processing payments from Americans for offending sites. You don't think any of this would impact European countries? In previous versions of SOPA (being discussed once more in the Trans-Pacific Partnership), DNS disruptions would become mandatory as well. Clearly, you're unaware of what ICE takedowns are.Furthermore, SOPA does not even require a complaint from a rights-holder before the US-based service providers cut off their payments, appearance in search results, or advertisements. Imagine one morning you wake up, to find your community blacklisted across the internet. You might be just outside the reach of United States judicial system but you're still under the purview of Interpol, who has been working closely with major authorities in taking down some of the internet's largest databases, such as TPB and EZTV.Please don't respond to this thread with inaccurate bullshit. The Trans-Pacific Partnership (SOPA 2.0) is a real threat, especially to WebFlake.I'm not responding with inaccurate bullshit. I'm responding with an opinion. If you don't know what that is, perhaps you shouldn't own a forum. Do you know what a forum is? It's a place where people express their opinions.Great going breaking your own rules by insulting members!If you think that the USA has the power to dictate Europe, you're delusional. They can go ahead and control their own companies, but they won't dare step up to powers such as Russia and China.If Google cooperates, we'll just use Yandex and Baidu. Who needs PayPal when we have Skrill? There are plenty of European alternatives to Amazon and eBay. No YouTube? We have Dailymotion. No Visa and Mastercard? We'll use UnionPay, thank you very much.Sorry, Americans, you cannot dictate us. Why do you think most of the torrent and file hosting sites are hosted in Central and Eastern-European countries and have been running without issues for years?If you host WebFlake with an American hosting company, then yeah, I agree, you might be threatened by the USA laws. If you want to feel safe, just move it to a Russian company. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Tony Posted June 9, 2015 Author Administrator Share Posted June 9, 2015 I'm not responding with inaccurate bullshit. I'm responding with an opinion. If you don't know what that is, perhaps you shouldn't own a forum. Do you know what a forum is? It's a place where people express their opinions.Great going breaking your own rules by insulting members!If you think that the USA has the power to dictate Europe, you're delusional. They can go ahead and control their own companies, but they won't dare step up to powers such as Russia and China.If Google cooperates, we'll just use Yandex and Baidu. Who needs PayPal when we have Skrill? There are plenty of European alternatives to Amazon and eBay. No YouTube? We have Dailymotion. No Visa and Mastercard? We'll use UnionPay, thank you very much.Sorry, Americans, you cannot dictate us. Why do you think most of the torrent and file hosting sites are hosted in Central and Eastern-European countries and have been running without issues for years?If you host WebFlake with an American hosting company, then yeah, I agree, you might be threatened by the USA laws. If you want to feel safe, just move it to a Russian company.Opinions aren't facts; this thread only pertains to the latter. Don't confuse ad hominem with a direct attack either.I won't debase myself by arguing with someone who is naive enough to believe that ditching some of the world's largest companies in favor of less-successful alternates is a viable solution for every website hosted outside of America.The next bit I'm going to quote says more than enough about how sheltered a life you clearly live:Why do you think most of the torrent and file hosting sites are hosted in Central and Eastern-European countries and have been running without issues for years?Evidently you still think the year is early 2014, otherwise you'd see the stupidity in such an assessment. The Pirate Bay and EZTV have both been taken offline, only the former returning after several months of downtime. "Without issue"? If the adversity sites like TPB and EZTV have had to face isn't an "issue", then you can rest assured that the repercussions of a SOPA-style bill passing in America will certainly be that "issue" you're looking for. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasty Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 i voted against!Also because i don't really trust the way USA makes food.Amen. I don't really want to have corn syrup in everything I touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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