Jeiko 20 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Hello guys. I really like this forum cause it's helpful and i can find a lot of things for my needs here but i've check the activity and it's kinda low and i speak for activity on topics/posts and no members online. So why i believe this "problem" exist here? You can download from here things that you have to pay them on official product forums or any other sites and in order to download something you just need to register and make one post (the most of people make topic on introduce section). I think this is kinda bad for the forum activity cause they just register here they make one topic and then they start download things and never help or posting anything on forums and that's kinda bad. So what i suggest? Make it like you need 25 posts (the first award) in order to check that someone is active and help the community so if he will help the community you will help him too with the power of download.And also he will still have the power to start topics in order to ask help for something. Dunno if it's good for you guys i'm not so pro on communities like this but i just wanted to suggest something in order to improve the activity cause i really like this forum! Regards Jeiko. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0w 15 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I kinda agree with you on this post, sometimes I do feel lonely raging around the forums on my own. I think they do need a higher post count until users can download so that they have a meaning to get posting and giving there help on topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verified 57 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 WebFlake is failing slowly. This is for various reasons but I'm not going to go into them. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Tony 5,207 Posted May 27, 2014 Administrator Share Posted May 27, 2014 So what i suggest? Make it like you need 25 posts (the first award) in order to check that someone is active and help the community so if he will help the community you will help him too with the power of download.And also he will still have the power to start topics in order to ask help for something. We've tried something similar in the past, to no avail. Post requirements generally encourage spam. I put together a concept months ago, that would create a new "Lurker" group that has access only to our Intros forum. If the user makes a reasonable effort with their intro, we manually approve it and they're bumped to Member. This has its rewards and plenty of drawbacks. The problem with attempting to impose more restrictions, is that it usually serves as a deterrent. The problem isn't with our current design, it's what we offer. The fact that we're constantly combating duplicitous clones of WebFlake and those who seek to defraud our members is what really puts a strain on our community. WebFlake is failing slowly. This is for various reasons but I'm not going to go into them. This is about as cliche as Lindsay Lohan's promises of sobriety. Every community struggles, particularly those with a project focus such as ours: warez. Users will always be more interested in getting what they need and leaving. Most users will not want to create ties to a community that could potentially be traced back to their website(s), within reason. This isn't "new" knowledge either. We had less than five average users during the months of July / August last year. We boomed during the Fall. It's the nature of webmaster communities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeiko 20 Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 We've tried something similar in the past, to no avail. Post requirements generally encourage spam. I put together a concept months ago, that would create a new "Lurker" group that has access only to our Intros forum. If the user makes a reasonable effort with their intro, we manually approve it and they're bumped to Member. This has its rewards and plenty of drawbacks. The problem with attempting to impose more restrictions, is that it usually serves as a deterrent. The problem isn't with our current design, it's what we offer. The fact that we're constantly combating duplicitous clones of WebFlake and those who seek to defraud our members is what really puts a strain on our community. This is about as cliche as Lindsay Lohan's promises of sobriety. Every community struggles, particularly those with a project focus such as ours: warez. Users will always be more interested in getting what they need and leaving. Most users will not want to create ties to a community that could potentially be traced back to their website(s), within reason. This isn't "new" knowledge either. We had less than five average users during the months of July / August last year. We boomed during the Fall. It's the nature of webmaster communities. i truly agree with you i've seen at least 2 communities copy of webflaxe and that's why i suggest this cause now they can easy take everything from your files and upload them on their copy forums and this is bad.. So think about this again it will save the community and the copies of this community will don't have any change to steal your community work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Tony 5,207 Posted May 27, 2014 Administrator Share Posted May 27, 2014 i truly agree with you i've seen at least 2 communities copy of webflaxe and that's why i suggest this cause now they can easy take everything from your files and upload them on their copy forums and this is bad.. So think about this again it will save the community and the copies of this community will don't have any change to steal your community work Unfortunately, the only way to truly prevent cloning would be to create exclusive memberships. By imposing a much larger post restriction, we risk tarnishing the quality of the community by having to combat a flood of spam posts. I'd willingly sacrifice a large number of daily visitors in favor of a cleaner community. Otherwise, I'm putting an enormous workload on the team's shoulders. The best way to combat these clones is to let our members choose for themselves. We acknowledge that there will be competition. We've crushed it all before. Clone sites on the other hand, are burner pages looking to make a quick dollar from an unsuspecting user. We go to great lengths to ensure our content is safe for our users, and always provide quality support. A site that looks identical to WebFlake by using the same skin, forum icons, category descriptions and layout should be self-explanatory: they're fraudulent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phun 723 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Possible idea would be to limit the downloads per day and tie them to posts. Think x post(s) per allowed download. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0w 15 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Possible idea would be to limit the downloads per day and tie them to posts. Think x post(s) per allowed download. +1, great idea Phun. I think that would be a good solution, but it may come to spam posts so moderators get on those buttons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courage 79 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Total members: 22,362 Total members with 0 posts: 16,131 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phun 723 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 This is a good idea in theory, but basically what you'll have is a bunch of spam. People will just post things like, "Thanks a bunch for your upload" . . . copy it . . . and paste it in several threads. Or you'll just get copy/pasted posts like, "Hello, and welcome to WebFlake" in the Member Introductions forums. That's not going to be beneficial to the site. What WebFlake needs right now, in my opinion, is a stronger sense of "community". We need to do something to keep people ON the site. I'll give you an example of what I mean. How many hundreds upon thousands of times have we seen people post, "Get on Skype!"? I have said this continuously . . this is not good for the site. People are leaving WebFlake to communicate elsewhere. The shoutbox is nice, but it is not private. I sincerely think CometChat would be a fantastic addition to WebFlake. This would keep people on the site while communicating. They could set up password protected private chats. I honestly feel like the strength of ForumCore was that people would just talk to one another. We don't have a lot of that here. People feel they don't need to come on WebFlake because they can just talk and share through Skype. It will also keep staff members on the site. One of the biggest reasons why ForumCore was such a success was that staff members were a lot more available on the site back then. For example, members had absolutely no problem getting ahold of me or Justin on ForumCore. Yeah i knew about the downside aswell, was just something that popped into my head but quickly thereafter was gone after i realized it would probably promote spam aswell. I never beleived in CometChat and i won't. I don't like the look of it, i don't like the idea of it and i don't think it would do WebFlake any good. ForumCore never had CometChat either. Total members: 22,362 Total members with 0 posts: 16,131 Thanks for trying to contribute to this thread, but with information that is already there you're not really helping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courage 79 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Thanks for trying to contribute to this thread, but with information that is already there you're not really helping Just sayin' I would delete all accounts with 0 posts (database bigger with no reason) and set a 10 minimum posts to download something 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreamzja 160 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 CometChat is not going to benefit WebFlake in anyway what so ever. I'm with Phun on the disagreement to CometChat. It looks horrid. It runs horrid it's just all in all a horrible peace of crap. For the activity of some members of the community, No one here can help that. You get no brainers who come here just to download free content because there too poor to actually purchase it them selves. Community's like this survive from loyal members and donations. Nothing more nothing less. It's a true fact. Look at countless other forum warez sites that have been online, and seen go offline within the space of a couple of months. Why is that? Like said above, it's because they don't have the loyal members to keep the site going with content. They don't have the donations to help keep the site going. They don't have the donations to provide the community with the content the members are wanting. They are all factors of why sites like this strive from there active / loyal members of the community. <else /> Site dies XD. Imho IPBCore, ForumCore & Webflake has stayed alive for this long sadly to say is because of the loyal members of the community that have stayed loyal to the community and have shared there mass amount of knowledge to other members of the community and providing others with content other's can't get there hands on them selves because of personal reasons like lack of money, no license for the forum board which then means to access to there marketplaces. To prevent stuff like this, To keep a community live and long living you need to pull a finger out your ass ( to put it blunt ). You need to make all the changes that need to be made. Webflake over the recent couple of months has made some great changes. Which is a good thing. But maybe some more needs to be done to keep the activity ( non spam activity ) at the top, where it needs to be. I'm guessing the members of staff need to get together and think of some more ways to keep the activity up and running. Maybe even if that means expanding to more category's than we have and promoting sectional moderators. ( not saying this is a way forward, just an example ) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpFor 39 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 ForumCore had a very strong sense of community. I don't know why that died on WebFlake... It's just, odd. I feel like we lost a lot of good people with the domain change. Even though an email was sent out, a lot of people had emails that didn't even work I'm sure, or they were just temporary emails. I'm not sure what it was about FC that made it a great community to participate in (socially), but whatever it was, it was done very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeiko 20 Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 Possible idea would be to limit the downloads per day and tie them to posts. Think x post(s) per allowed download. true +1 on this it's amazing idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastly 0 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Possible idea would be to limit the downloads per day and tie them to posts. Think x post(s) per allowed download. Exactly what needs to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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