I've been looking for this and wondered if anybody ever done it also.i use a third party menu, so i want to completely remove the primary menuI know promenu can hide it but it still flashes up at site load then hides and just looks bad, i want to remove it completely from loading.Just to anser my own question, I removed the following code from the globaltemplate.Find: <!-- ::: APPLICATION TABS ::: -->Remove below it <div id='primary_nav' class='<if test="$this->settings['hideNavSubtitles']=='yes'">noSubText</if> clearfix'> <ul class='ipsList_inline' id='community_app_menu'> <if test="showhomeurl:|:$this->settings['home_url'] AND $this->settings['home_name']"> <li id='nav_home' class='left'><a href='{$this->settings['home_url']}' title='{$this->lang->words['homepage_title']}' rel="home">{$this->settings['home_name']}</a></li> </if> <if test="hasCustomPrimaryNavigation:|:!empty($header_items['primary_navigation_menu'])"> {$header_items['primary_navigation_menu']} <else /> <if test="applicationsloop:|:is_array($header_items['applications']) AND count($header_items['applications'])"> <foreach loop="applications:$header_items['applications'] as $data"> <if test="showingapp:|:$data['app_show']"> {parse variable="appActive" default="" oncondition="$data['app_active']" value="active"} <li id='nav_app_{$data['app_dir']}' class="left {parse variable="appActive"}"><a href='{parse url="{$data['app_link']}" seotitle="{$data['app_seotitle']}" template="{$data['app_template']}" base="{$data['app_base']}"}' title='{parse expression="sprintf( $this->lang->words['go_to_prefix'], IPSLib::getAppTitle($data['app_dir']) )"}'>{IPSLib::getAppTitle($data['app_dir'])}</a></li> </if> </foreach> </if></if> <if test="$this->settings['navDropdown']=='yes'"> <li class='left'><a href="#" class='ipbmenu' id='primary_extra'>Extra links <img src='{$this->settings['img_url']}/useropts_arrow.png' /></a></li> </if> <if test="$this->settings['defaultMoreDropdown']=='yes'"> <li id='nav_other_apps' style='display: none'> <a href='#' class='ipbmenu' id='more_apps'>{$this->lang->words['more_apps']} <img src='{$this->settings['img_url']}/useropts_arrow.png' /></a> </li> </if> </ul> </div>This may not work for everyone but it done the job for me.